so guys when you look at the vix, remember, we haven't been at these levels since july, and as one trader just pointed out, we were 80 points lower in the s&p 500 the last time we were at these levels in the vix, so things aren't exactly matching up, and his call would be to short the vix at these levels because it's certainly high for where the market is right now. back to you. ashley: you're absolutely right. sandra smith at the cme thank you. we have juss turned positive, literally just above the water mark, now we have just gone below. you think about it, we were down 148 points. so as sandra says, maybe someone knows something about that meeting on sunday. who knows. but certainly the market reacting. the closing bell ringing in about 16, 18 minutes, somewhere in there. let's call it 17. he made the right call on bank of america when everybody else was saying dump it. founder of new generation research told clients to buy that troubled bank at the end of last year when no one else wanted in. b of a, guess what, has more than doubled since then. now, he's found another treasure in the